{"id":3820,"date":"2011-02-01T22:16:02","date_gmt":"2011-02-02T04:16:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/?p=3820"},"modified":"2011-02-01T22:16:02","modified_gmt":"2011-02-02T04:16:02","slug":"progressive-libertarians-apace","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/01\/progressive-libertarians-apace\/","title":{"rendered":"Progressive Libertarians Apace"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(As for <a href=\"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/tag\/clinical-teaching-2011\/\">my clinical teaching posts<\/a>, school closed today and Wednesday for inclement weather. Which is not the same thing as <a href=\"https:\/\/secure.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/en\/wiki\/Global_warming\">increment weather<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/rawstory.com\/\">RawStory<\/a> discusses the nascent &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.rawstory.com\/rs\/2011\/01\/progressive-libertarianism-the-exciting-political-dynamic-ralph-nader\/\">progressive libertarian<\/a>&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rawstory.com\/rs\/2011\/01\/ron-paul-ralph-nader-agree-on-progressive-libertarian-alliance\/\">alliance<\/a> foreseen by trends analysts. I like the idea of such a movement. If you have no clue where you fall in poly-sci pidgeonhole terminology, take this handy-dandy, overly simplistic, but quite <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politicalcompass.org\/\">awesome quiz at PoliticalCompass.org<\/a>. Here&#8217;s the scale:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3822\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"width: 350px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/axeswithnames.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/axeswithnames.gif\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3822\" srcset=\"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/axeswithnames.gif 500w, https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/axeswithnames-150x150.gif 150w, https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/axeswithnames-300x300.gif 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politicalcompass.org\/\">PoliticalCompass.org<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>And my result:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3827\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"width: 350px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/mycompass.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/mycompass.png\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"408\" height=\"340\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3827\" srcset=\"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/mycompass.png 480w, https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/mycompass-300x250.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 408px) 100vw, 408px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Again, via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politicalcompass.org\/\">PoliticalCompass.org<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>So: I&#8217;m as left as the Ghandi dot on economics, but more in favor of individual choice in social spheres &#8212; the anti-rules vibe. (I know little about Ghandi, which is why I say his dot rather than him.) Sounds like a &#8216;progressive libertarian&#8217; to me.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately two self-appointed loudmouths for the &#8216;progressive libertarian&#8217; concept, Ralph Nader and Ron Paul, are problems &#8212; Nader handed Bush II the presidency by running as a self-aggrandizing third party candidate, and even if Paul didn&#8217;t name his son after Ayn Rand, her philosophy suits both of them.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway. People commonly define libertarians as rightwing on economic issues and leftwing on social ones; lately, libertarians seem to be realizing more and more that corporations and secret interests interfere with the laissez-faire capitalism they want. Republicans wrongly describe themselves as laissez-faire, when they&#8217;re actually pro-big-biz; libertarians, in contrast, though they&#8217;re pro-capitalism, don&#8217;t want governments to give favors to businesses any more than they want regulations on biz. (I think leftist commentators inaccurately blur Republicans and libertarians, missing this distinction.) I don&#8217;t want to whitewash the libertarian infrastructure, though; some of their organizations are run by billionaires rather than what I&#8217;m talking more about: the pontificating college kid in your coffee shop or whatever.<\/p>\n<p>Progressives are left on both economic and social issues. They share the libertarians&#8217; anti-corporatism (neither are going to oppose your small business), they share the libertarians&#8217; anti-corruption, anti-secrecy, and often anti-military streaks. Progressives differ in that they want to expand the public sector to fund nonprofitable stuff the market won&#8217;t incentivize, as well as goods and services that work better when they&#8217;re considered common goods &#8212; welfare, health care payment, roads, parks, etc.<\/p>\n<p>But both are anti-corruption, both favor we-the-people deciding through honest and educated democracy, both want to figure out in a transparent manner which policies will govern well. Many of them inhabit a data-driven milieu that differs from the (worthy) help-the-downtrodden phrasings of past movements. That&#8217;s partly why I think you have folks such as <a href=\"https:\/\/secure.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/en\/wiki\/Jimmy_Wales\">Jimmy Wales<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wikileaks.ch\">Julian<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wlcentral.org\">Assange<\/a> describing themselves as libertarians. (Though <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.forbes.com\/andygreenberg\/2010\/11\/29\/an-interview-with-wikileaks-julian-assange\/5\/\">Assange said<\/a> he knows human nature and history well enough to understand profit-minded business has to be forced to play fair.) On the other side of the &#8220;progressive libertarian&#8221; phrase, progressive, you have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\">kos<\/a> running polls and visitor statistics constantly.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3894\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"width: 300px;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/geekz.co.uk\/lovesraymond\/archive\/cave-paints0ring\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/cavecode-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3894\" srcset=\"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/cavecode-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/cavecode-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/cavecode.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Pic <a href=\"http:\/\/geekz.co.uk\/lovesraymond\/archive\/cave-paints0ring\">via Eric Raymond<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>The budding &#8220;progressive libertarian&#8221; alliance seems to fit with the ever-increasing number of geeks who by digital-native default hate censorship, admire <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tnr.com\/article\/world\/81963\/pirate-party-wikileaks\">Pirate Parties<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/wlcentral.org\/\">Wikileaks<\/a>, go to the mat for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.eff.org\">civil<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aclu.org\">liberties<\/a>, and constitute a good share of young activists. I realize the progressive libertarian concept isn&#8217;t entirely new in de facto terms &#8212; see the &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.leftycartoons.com\/the-24-types-of-libertarian\/\">leftist libertarian<\/a>&#8221; in this political cartoon &#8212; but still, even though the trends analyst mentioned by RawStory beat me to it, I&#8217;d still like to say &#8220;called it&#8221; six or so years from now when &#8220;progressive libertarian&#8221; becomes a very vocal bloc.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<p>For tomorrow I plan to post about politics on a more face-to-face, individual and small group level (it takes a dern village!) based on <a href=\"http:\/\/letters.salon.com\/opinion\/greenwald\/2011\/01\/26\/bipartisanship\/permalink\/013ed47739e77f685fdaeea796d6267e.html\">a comment<\/a> I left on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitter.com\/ggreenwald\">Glenn<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/news\/opinion\/glenn_greenwald\/index.html\">Greenwald&#8217;s blog<\/a>. There&#8217;s also, in my future plans, a post about how political positions can relate to family governing styles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-flattr-button\"><a class=\"FlattrButton\" style=\"display:none;\" href=\"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/01\/progressive-libertarians-apace\/\" title=\" Progressive Libertarians Apace\" rev=\"flattr;uid:DouglasLucas;language:en_GB;category:text;tags:Politics,blog;\">(As for my clinical teaching posts, school closed today and Wednesday for inclement weather. Which is not the same thing as increment weather.) RawStory discusses the nascent &#8220;progressive libertarian&#8221; alliance...<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(As for my clinical teaching posts, school closed today and Wednesday for inclement weather. Which is not the same thing as increment weather.) RawStory discusses the nascent &#8220;progressive libertarian&#8221; alliance foreseen by trends analysts. I like the idea of such a movement. If you have no clue where you fall in poly-sci pidgeonhole terminology, take [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[24],"tags":[111],"class_list":["post-3820","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","tag-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3820","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3820"}],"version-history":[{"count":35,"href":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3820\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3904,"href":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3820\/revisions\/3904"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3820"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3820"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/douglaslucas.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3820"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}